Danny: This is the place we go to mute for a little bit and then we come again and it's two months later on, but yeah. Cindy: I want to again up just a small little bit, since I really like this new entire world and this vision, but it wouldn't be an EFF podcast if we did not discuss a little bit about regulation and policy. Ethan Zuckerman: You you should not want to get rid of that context.