Danny: This is in which we go to mute for a bit and then we come again and it really is two weeks later on, but yeah. Cindy: I want to again up just a small little bit, mainly because I appreciate this new earth and this eyesight, but it would not be an EFF podcast if we didn't chat a tiny little bit about regulation and plan. Ethan Zuckerman: You really don't want to get rid of that context.