When Lysias the druggist questioned him if he believed in the gods, "How can I enable believing in them," explained he, "when I see a god-forsaken wretch like you?" Others give this retort to Theodorus. It is appealing to see how these makes an attempt at iconographic liberation maintain on recurring. Seeing a youth setting up off to dine with satraps, he dragged him off, took him to his friends and bade them hold rigid enjoy more than him.